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HgH Protocol For Dummies(Human Growth Hormone)

Get Realistic:

OK, so where do I start. There are so many retarded questions out there regarding HGH use that it hurts my eyes to constantly read them. It seems that GH is the new popular thing to do. Not because it is a miracle drug, but because it is more easily available, and all the big guys are using it. Sadly, this doesn’t mean these new users are using it correctly. I see more and more users trying to save money by taking baby doses, while using some ridiculous protocol to simply save money. Yet, they are expecting unrealistic gains while doing so. Sorry guys, stretching 2 kits to last you 4 months isn’t going to do much of anything for you, and will end up being a waste…unless you are an HRT patient and not looking for athletic benefit. It comes down to this: If you want to see gains from HGH, you are going to have to spend the cash, and there is no way around it.


Dosages should be based on personal goals, and how far one is willing to go to take it to the next level. As a bodybuilder, there are simple basics. For fat loss and dieting, smaller doses of around 3-5 will do. Don’t expect spectacular results in terms of fat loss. The more you use, the greater the results. If it is fat loss you are looking for, then maybe Clen and T3 would be a cheaper option that will produce better results. If you are looking to simply stay leaner in the off season, then HGH can be more useful.

If it is mass you are looking for from HGH, you had better be ready to fork over a good amount of cash. Larger doses are necessary, and mainly in conjunction with insulin. Doses used for mass start at about 8iu of good HGH, and work their way up to as much as you can afford to be blunt. I feel that 8-10iu of good GH is realistic and not an over exaggeration. I have used up to 30iu daily with good results. I know pro’s that use or have used even more. The insulin needs to be incorporated to get maximum benefit from your hefty dose of HGH. Mainly to create that large IGF-1 burst. Insulin needs to be present when the GH passes the liver for optimal IGF-1 production.


This is what really bugs me. People coming up with some stupid protocol and following it without any doubt simply because it will save them some cash by stretching out the little amount of HGH they have purchased.

We have the ridiculous 5/2 protocol. Where did this come from? Let me answer… Internet board members came up with it mainly to save some cash by taking 2 days off of their GH use at the end of the week. Why? To save money, and they backed it up with a poor excuse for a theory to make it look like a legit protocol. The theory behind taking 2 days off at the end of the week are so that your body can take a break and produce naturally…kinda. Well, ok…except this doesn’t go along with the negative feedback loop of exogenous HGH use! Your body will be producing naturally daily anyway…the loop only lasts hours…not days. What it comes down to is a poor excuse for a protocol designed to save some money, with little to no scientific evidence to back it up. Not to mention that most people using this protocol are using smaller doses anyway.

We have Gavin Kane type protocol. Mainly injections are done PWO 3 times a week, using a hefty dose of HGH…your weekly doses split into 3 larger doses. Example would be if you are using 8iu/ed for mass, it would equal 5 6iu weekly. It would come out to just under 20iu 3 times a week. This is also used in conjunction with insulin and IGF-1. This protocol seems to work well for a good amount of people, and the theory backing it is somewhat sound…which I will not get into…as this is supposed to be a simple guide. The sad thing is that alot of people try to manipulate and twist this protocol to fit their budget, and it doesn’t work that way. Sorry, but using 6iu 3 times a week just isn’t going to cut it…in any case. I feel this protocol best fits you guys that are using a DC style training where you are only hitting the gym a few times a week.

We have the basic diet protocol. Taking your HGH upon rising, at a dose of 3-5iu every day. Granted, the less you use, the less you will see. No need to take days off, as it’s not that much GH and you are really looking for optimal fat loss and body composition. Too many people are using dumb doses like 1-2iu, which is nothing more than an HRT dose for my 90 year old grandma.

A basic mass protocol that has been used over the years is taking your high dose of 8iu+/pwo in conjunction with insulin. Taking it IM will ensure speedy peak levels and faster IGF-1 production. Since that is what we want after a workout while our IGF-1 receptors are ready to roll. This way you can ensure a good amount of fresh IGF-1 floating around when you need it most. This protocol best suits those of you training almost all week, with the occasional day off for recovery. Taking a day off HGH when administering high doses can be beneficial, to give your IGF-1 receptors a break. Besides, levels will still be raised regardless. This day off should also be your day off training used for recovery. It is not needed, and mainly comes down to personal preference.

Every day mass protocol would be the same as the diet protocol, only with a higher dose. Insulin is also a good idea for maximum benefit and gains for obvious reason. Tried and true.

There is also an EOD protocol that you don’t hear about often. A while back there was a study posted that taking HGH EOD at double your daily dose provided the same results with less antibodies. Now, this study had to do with children, but you get the point. I think this protocol would only be good for mass gains, and not beneficial for dieting. An example would be if you were taking 8iu daily for mass, then instead you would be taking 16iu/EOD. Simple as that.

I have noticed that some people use their GH on a daily basis, but pre-workout instead of post. Theory behind this is that when using sub-q injections, levels wont peak for a while….. after their workouts. The problem I see with this is that a good chunk of insulin should be present when the GH passes the liver for optimal IGF-1 production. It’s hard to manipulate it this way, so why not just take it PWO using IM injection followed by insulin injection or spike.

How To Create The Perfect Cycle

How to create the perfect cycle for you

So you want to create the perfect cycle for yourself. So how do you go about this? Well there’s a lot of things you need to know before you can sit down and create yourself a perfect cycle.

The most important thing you need to know is what your EXACT goals are for THIS cycle. From here you can figure out exactly what steroids are right for you and at what dosages.

So what about steroids, ancillaries, and other drugs do you need to know? You need to know the basics of the most popular drugs available.

-Testosterone (Enan, Cyp, Prop, Sust, Omna)/Test

-Nolvadex/Nolva (Tamoxifen)
-Arimidex/Arim (Anastrozole)
-Femera/Fem (Letrozole)
-Aromasin (Exemestane)
-Proviron (technically a steroid, but oft considered an ancillary)

Other BBing/Performance Enhancing Drugs:
-Human Growth Hormone/hGH/GH

There are of course many other types of steroids, ancillaries and sports enhancing drugs, but they are extremely rare. I won’t go into a full discussion about each of the drugs above, but will just list properties of the drugs and state which steroids have those properties.

-Large Mass Steroids: Test, Deca, Drol, D-bol and to a lesser extent: EQ, Primo
-Strength Steroids: Test, Drol, D-bol, Tren and to a lesser extent: Halo, Var
-Steroids that have low/no aromatization: Drol, EQ, Primo, Halo, Var, Tren, Winny
-Steroids that raise red blood cell count: EQ, Drol and to a lesser extent: most others
-Low-Lean Mass Steroids: Winny, Halo, Var, Tren
-Steroids with direct fat-burning properties: Test, Tren, Var
-Mostly Androgenic Steroids: Halo, Methyltest
-Mostly Anabolic Steroids: Deca, EQ, Primo, Winny, Var
-Highly Anabolic Androgens: D-bol, Drol, Tren
-Mostly even Androgenic/Anabolic Steroids: Test
-Steroid most likely to cause aggression: Tren
-Liver Toxic Steroids: D-bol, Winny, Drol, Halo, Methyltest, Var
-Short Acting Steroids: Test Prop, D-bol, Winny, Drol, Halo, Var, Tren
-Long Acting Steroids: Test Enan, Test Cyp, Deca, EQ, Primo, Sust, Omna
-Progestins: Deca, Anadrol
-Prolactins: Tren
-Acts like an estrogen: Anadrol
-Anti-Progestin: Winny* (anecdotal evidence)
-Drugs for Mass (excluding AAS): Slin
-Drugs for Strength (excluding AAS): Slin, GH
-Anti-Aromatases: Arimidex, Femera, Aromasin, Proviron
-Anti-Estrogens: Nolvadex, Clomid
-Anti-Androgens: Finasteride
-Fat Burners: Clen, T3, DNP, GH
-Anti-Prolactin: Bromo
-Stimulates LH release: HCG
-Aids HPTA recovery: Clomid, Nolva, GH
-Drugs that increase red-blood cell count (excluding AAS): EPO, GH
-Drugs that raise IGF-1 (excluding oral AAS): Slin, GH

Ok so now that you know what drugs do what, we can begin to discuss what properties a cycle should have. From there we can begin to see how these drugs can be combined to form a “stack.” The idea behind the stack is to create a synergy between the drugs involved to give an effect that’s greater than the sum of the parts.

Mass Cycles:
These are cycles were all out mass is required. Here we give no consideration to fat gain, water gain or any of that stuff. We are just looking to pack on as much muscle as possible (don’t forget, water and fat are GOOD for muscle gains).

To get all out mass, we need to attack our system from all angles. We need steroids that are highly androgenic and highly anabolic. We need steroids that are known to pack on a lot of mass. In general, steroids that do not aromatize, do not activate the AR and do not pack on a lot of mass aren’t needed. For injectables we would rather have long acting esters than short ones, as the long acting esters tend to pool up in your blood and generally leave you with more hormone at any given point. For orals we prefer those that either aromatize heavily, or cause an explosion of mass by similar estrogenic properties. The use of orals is mainly to kick off the mass cycle, gives you near instant results and puts your body in a good anabolic state when the long acting esters kick in.

With all that said the best steroids for mass are: Test Enan, Test Cyp, Deca, D-bol and Drol. Advanced users can also use things like Insulin and GH.

Cutting Cycles:
Realize that with the exception of Test, Tren and Anavar, no steroid has a direct impact on fat burning. Even Test, Tren and Var have limited effects on fat burning. You shouldn’t go into a cutting cycle with the mindset of “These steroids are going to help me loose fat.” Instead you should think of the steroids as muscle sparring. Basically you’re using them to preserve the muscle that you have, while, diet, cardio and your true fat burners (like Clen, DNP and T3) work on the fat. All steroids listed above meet the first requirement; they will all help you retain muscle in a calorie deficient diet. However, if you are cutting you certainly do not want your steroids to be in the way either. Some steroids (drol) actually make it harder to loose fat. Others can bloat you up so bad that even with a low body fat percentage, most of your definition can be lost. So what we need here is steroids that are more androgenic than anabolic. We need steroids that have direct fat burning properties and steroids that do not aromatize heavily. If we do use a long acting ester, we would prefer to use one that doesn’t aromatize heavily, if the injectable does aromatize significantly, we would prefer to use a short acting ester as short acting esters don’t pool up, and an anti-aromatase would be a good idea.

Best fat burners: Clen and T3. Advanced users may also use DNP and GH

Best steroids for cutting: Test Prop, EQ, Primo, Tren, Winny, Halo, Proviron, Var

Sports/Performance Enhancing Cycles:
Now I can’t claim that I know what’s really best for a non-bodybuilding athlete. But I can take a guess and you guys that do participate in sports can probably figure it out given my explanations.

First let’s look at sports that require strength without increased mass. Obviously any “mass builder” is out the door. Any steroid that aromatizes heavily is not desirable here, as the extra water will certainly make you put on weight. Your best drugs for this purpose would be: Halo, Winny, Var and GH. If you can afford a few extra pounds (like in the offseason or what not), Tren would also be a good steroid.

Now let’s look at cycles for sports that require endurance. As we’ve discussed before, some steroids increase red blood cell count significantly; this equals better endurance performance. The best drugs to use for this purpose are EQ, GH and EPO. Because EPO can have such a drastic effect on red blood cell count, it is NOT recommended that you use it along with steroids.

When you use any steroid, your HPTA will be suppressed. What this means is that your system is not producing any endogenous testosterone, which means you won’t have any hormone to help maintain your gains. What good is a cycle if you can’t keep your gains? So the key to cycling is to get your endogenous test back on track ASAP.

One thing that will hinder HPTA activation is excess estrogen, whether it is from aromatizable steroids used in your cycle or whether it be endogenous estrogen. Using anti-estrogens like Clomid and Nolva will help prevent this negative feedback.

When your body sends out LH (leutinizing hormone), it signals your testicles to begin producing test again. During your cycle, LH release will be suppressed and will remain suppressed for a few weeks after your cycle. HCG mimics LH and helps your testicles start producing testosterone. For our purposes we should view HCG as a “bridge” between your cycle and the time your LH returns to normal function. However, HCG when used to heavily or for too long will actually suppress natural test production so it can be counter productive.

Different cycles will suppress your HPTA to different degrees. Cycles including Deca and Fina will be more suppressive than cycles including Var and Primo. I don’t have the energy to design a post cycle therapy for each cycle, so I will post here a post cycle therapy program that should help you recover from any sane and sensible cycle.

Before we outline the universal post-cycle therapy, we need to define when a cycle officially ends. If you are using long acting esters, your cycle ends 2-3 weeks after you take your last shot of the long ester (I wont explain why, just accept it). If you are using ONLY short acting steroids OR your last shot of long acting steroids was over 3 weeks ago, and the only thing you’ve been running since then is short acting steroids, then your cycle officially ends the last day of administration of your steroids.

So given that, here is the universal post-cycle recovery program:

2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: HCG @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: HCG @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
First Week Post-Cycle: HCG @ 1500IUs 2 times a week

Day 1 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 2-14: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 15-28: Clomid @ 50mg ED

Days 1-28: Nolva @ 20mg ED

More advanced users can also experiment with GH, Slin and DNP.
Written by: Duanabol

HCG:On Cycle And Post Therapy

HCG is among one of the best, if not the best, drug used to maintain healthy muscle mass during a steroid cycle and after. HCG is actually the hormone found in a pregnant woman’s urine and is very readily available anywhere you look. It’s very difficult for scammers to fake this product because it’s very simple to test. I you can buy a ten dollar pregnancy strip and pour the reconstituted liquid onto the strip, it will read positive if you have legit HCG.

HCG-How It Works

When you inject a synthetic testosterone into your body it sends a signal to the testes to immediately shut down. There is enough testosterone being produced that the testes no longer have a use. When your natural production is shut down, your body will most likely only remember what gains it has made while on cycle with the synthetic form because: When you come off of your steroid cycle, the testes take approximately a month before they reach normal testosterone production peak again. This means that the gains you have made will usually be shredded away because during the time your testes are trying to reach their peak, it simply takes too long.

Now, if you use HCG during a cycle, your testes will continue to produce natural testosterone, therefore, it will not take that very long month to start working again and most of your gains will be kept. There are many different protocols on how to use HCG so I refuse to get into those but I will tell you how I use it, which works just fine.

Every week, once a week I use 250ius. Now I never come off cycle but if I did, I would use the 250iu’s every week and then after my cycle I would use 500ius every third day for three weeks after my last injection.

I really hope this helped someone and my goal was just to help you understand how it works and why. There are a million articles written on HCG but I can only understand maybe one word out of a sentence. I tried to make it easy to understand and hopefully now you will.


HCG will help you to hold your gains during and after a cycle. It’s normal to lose strength so don’t expect to remain strong, but again you will hold most of what you have gained. HCG is the most important part of your cycle and without it your gains will be slim to none. A small amount of HCG is sufficient and doses too high can forever destroy your testes forcing them to never work again for the rest of your life (1500 ius or higher). A bodybuilder who refuses to use HCG is a stupid bodybuilder.

Basic Steroid Cycles

A lot of people don’t know where to start with their first cycle or where to go from there after their first cycle. This is kind of a guide to how to do it right and how to schedule your progression.

First Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 10 weeks

This is the cycle that a beginner should use to test the waters so to speak. You can expect great gains from this. Make sure that you have PLENTY of nolvadex on hand to combat any gyno issues and for post cycle therapy.

Second Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 10 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks

This is a great cycle! You already know how your body responds to test, so it is easier to gauge what type of progress your body makes with deca. You should never add more than one unfamiliar compound to any cycle. It makes it too difficult to figure out which compound is doing what to your body.

Third Cycle:
Test E 500mg per week x 10 weeks
Deca 400mg per week x 10 weeks
Dbol 30mg per day x weeks 1-4

This will be the first cycle in which you introduce an oral steroid. This will give you a great boost in mass and strength and let you become familiar with another compound.

After you have completed these three cycles you are probably ready to start increasing dosages slightly (if necessary). Remember that it is healthy and monetarily sound to use as little of a compound as it takes to get the result that you desire.

After you get done with these three basic beginner cycles you should know enough about how you respond to steroids to design your own cycles.

***antiestrogens and pct weren’t really discussed much in this thread, but know that they are necessary and you should research them THOROUGHLY before starting any cycle.***

Safe Steroid Cycles For Quality Gains: Anavar

An anavar cycle is very exciting for the fatty and bulky people as they can loose large quantities of weight and can also burn  fat very easily but the  true thing is that when one starts to have the cycle then it should be followed properly and in time. In summer, the weight conscious people can go to beach without any hesitation as they can keep themselves cool and without fat as this steroid has the capacity to burn all the fat in the body off these  people. The cutting purpose is possible with the use of the Anavar Cycle and it is the strongest steroid for the production of strength and power in the individual. 

Anavar can help you in regaining  weight and also to burn the weight so we can say it, as the steroid ,offering multipurpose tasks, but what ever one has regained is good weight and not just fat. People who are very skinny can ask the doctor  whether they can use it or not for weight gain because it is very true that once the person regains the weight will not lose it very fast as it’s considered to be  permanent  for sometime. It has the greatest effect on the HPTA, but here the exception is the very low dose. You can often find it for a very reasonable price and is overall the safest drug on the market. Unlike other orals , it’s very unlikely to experience liver toxicity but you always should be monitored by a physician just in case.

There are some people who are using ten mg per day and there are some who are using 50 mg per day, the quantity varies according to the quantity required in the body, but whatever is the case you must be clear about the fact the Anavar cycle is very essential to follow properly.It creates no concept of water retention. The benefits also lies with Oxandrolone but the disadvantage also is there, in the world every thing has its own pros and cons but the best way is to analyze how to use the benefits and how to cross the cons. Regaining of weight and losing of weight comes under the responsibilities of the steroid called Oxandrolone.I would suggest this mild anabolic to anyone that wants to remain safe and produce effective gains that will not put your health in risk. Like I stated earlier, the biggest benefit of this substance is that you will keep most of your gains. When coming off of a powerful anabolic like Testosterone, you will lose alot of what weight you have gained because of water retention.

Anavar Dosages:

Due to its being a mild steroid in every sense of the word, high amounts of Anavar dosage are needed. It binds reasonably well to the AR, but pretty high doses are still needed and I would never suggest doing less than 20mgs/day. In fact, 20-80mgs are needed to start halting AIDS related wasting and recovering weight for burn victims  so that´s the range I´d recommend keeping your dosages in concerning this compound. Personally, I´d use 100mgs/day if I were ever going to try this stuff. Any less than this amount (20-100mgs) would be a waste. For women, however, I think 2.5-10mgs/day would suffice. Virilization is not a concern with this compound, as it is only very mildly androgenic .

Although Anavar is an oral steroid, and has been alpha-alkylated to survive oral ingestion and the first pass through the liver, it´s still relatively mild in that respect too…, the unique chemical configuration of oxandrolone both confers a resistance to liver metabolism as well as noticable anabolic activity. It would also appear that Anavar appears not to exhibit the serious hepatoxic effects (jaundice, cholestatic hepatitis, peliosis hepatis, hyperplasias and neoplasms) typically attributed to the C17alpha-alkylated AASs.  Anavar has even been used successfully in some studies to heal cutaneous wounds , or to improve respiratory function . Both of these novel properties could make it a good choice for in-season use for boxers, Mixed Martial Arts competitors, and other such athletes.

The best advice I can give you is to think about starting off with a small dosage to see how your body responds, if it responds well then try to up the dosa a little bit until you find what works best for you. If you feel comfortable and your health is good, then by all means throw in another compound if you’d like. Just remember always that safety comes first; never put your health at risk for something that can be easily avoidable. Good luck!

Bulking cycle:16 weeks

Here is a great 16 week intermediate bulking cycle :

Week1-16-Testosterone enanthate:500-1200mg per week

Week 1-12-Deca-durabolin:400-800mg per week

Weeks1-5-dianobol or anadrol:dbol-50 mg everyday/adrol-100mg

Week 1-15-HCG 250iu’s twice weekly

Week 16-20-HCG,novadex,clomid,or arimidex whichever you prefer.

Here’s a advanced bulking cycle:

Week 1-20: Testosterone propionate-200mg every other day

Week 1-20:Testosterone enanthate-600mg per week

Week1-16: Equipoise-400mg per week

Week1-16:Deca-durabolin-600mg per week

Week1-20: HGH 6 ius daily

Week1-20: Humulin-r-5-15 ius PWO

Week1-7: IGF-LR3-80mcg bi-laterally everyday

8 Week Cutting Cycle

Here is a simple cutting diet and all the relevent training dieting information to go along with it.

8 Week Cutting Cycle

WEEKS 1-8 : Winstrol 50mg Every Day
WEEKS 1-6 : Trenabol 100mg Every Other Day
WEEKS 1-8 : Testosterone Propionate 100mg Every Other Day
WEEKS 4-8 : Masteron 100mg Every Other Day

As an alternative you can use Ultradex with Winstrol, a great combination.


With this cycle PCT should start at week 8

WEEK 8: 40mg Tamoximed/100mg Clomid daily
WEEK 9: 30mg Tamoximed/ 50mg Clomid daily
WEEK 10: 20mg Tamoximed/ 50mg Clomid daily


Eat every 3 hours – 5/6 times a day

Calories should be aprox 1000 less than your normal daily intake using a 40/40/20 method (40% protein , 40% carbs , 20% fat)

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